055 | JHS Angry Charlie V3: A Closer Look at this Channel Drive Pedal | Transcript

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Scott Schwertly:
Hello, and welcome to Episode 55 of the Sonic Renegades podcast. We're exploring renegade pedals that have changed the music landscape.

Up for today's discussion we have the JHS Angry Charlie, specifically the Version 3 model. So if you love Marshall or if you really love the JCM 800 and you want that in a box, then you're going to love this discussion. We'll see you on the other side.

Hey everybody, Scott Schwertly and Eric Wilson of Siren Pedals with you today. Hope you're having a great one.

Well, for today's discussion we have a fun pedal. This is the JHS Angry Charlie. I love this pedal. It's been one of my favorites now for the last, maybe, year, year and a half. And as those that follow this podcast religiously, I'm a huge fan of Tom Morello, I love folks like Slash, so I love the JCM 800 sound in this pedal, provides that tone and it makes me a happy camper when I've got this thing on my board. So excited to be unpacking this pedal today.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. I haven't gotten to try the Version 3 until now, and I have to say I really enjoy it. Having that 3-band EQ's just super helpful.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah. I love the tonal options that are available on it. It really allows you really just a nice canvas to work from and when you're trying to dial in a specific tone. And with that said, because of that diversity that you get with it, I mean, this has really been a staple on my board.

But as we discussed last week... we covered the Strymon Iridium, the great thing about that pedal is I've actually been able to use the punch option and really dial in on some JCM 800 sounds. And so I've really been spending the last couple of days comparing that to the Angry Charlie, and I actually prefer what the Angry Charlie's doing on the JCM 800 front. I just think it just mimics it just with a little bit more clarity, which I love.

So I thought I would actually be able to remove this pedal from my board, but I still have kept a spot for it, even though I've got the Iridium. So I love it. It allows me to do all the stuff that I love to play. I mean, I love rock, I love metal. So it gives me everything I need.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. This really does nail that JCM 800 tone. And while I don't have too many uses for that kind of tone any more, it is still really fun to be able to get that whenever you want it. And like you said, having it on your board, it does nail the JCM 800 tone perfectly, whereas the Iridium can probably get close but it's not perfect.

So having this on your board is a really great way to click that on, even if you're playing through a Fender amp or something like that, and just really being able to capitalize on having both tones; both a really nice, clean Fender and that JCM 800 tone.

Scott Schwertly:
Exactly. So I mean, it's definitely a gem. And if you're new to this world or if you're new to the Angry Charlie, it's been around for quite some time. As we've mentioned, we're talking about the Version 3, this is the red version. You can also get it on JHS's Sweet Tea, which is actually a combination of JHS's Moonshine Version 2, as well as the Angry Charlie Version 3; so three different versions of the Angry Charlie, or if you like to couple it with something like the Moonshine, you can do that as well by picking up a Sweet Tea.

But again, lots of tonal options or a lot of tonal options available in this really small stomp box.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. I actually used to own a Sweet Tea back before they added 3-band EQ, and back when it was the 808 in the Sweet Tea as well. And that was a really great pedal because I think they hot-rodded the 808 or something; they added a little bit more gain or something. And I remember I really loved the sound of that pedal. I probably just wanted something else and that's probably why I sold it. I can't remember. I went through so many pedals in a span of two years. I have no idea.

But I remember it sounded really good and I really enjoyed the Angry Charlie side of it because it was just really nice for leads and things like that.

Scott Schwertly:
I mean, it's a ton of fun. I always have this thing on when wanting to do the leads and everything else. So it's brought me a lot of joy over the last year or so.

Well, let's go and talk about people that actually use this. I mean, obviously this is a amp in a box; so we're talking again about the JCM 800 here. Traditionally most artists are going to just use a JCM 800. So I would say this is definitely more in that recreational, hobby realm if you're just going to want to tap into that for fun.

I think if you're going to be serious about a JCM 800 sound, you'll probably actually own a JCM 800. So there's not really a lot of famous musicians that use this pedal. I think I found one person, being Andy Timmons, but not a lot of big names out there using a pedal like this.

Eric Wilson:
I also... Because obviously I went down the rabbit hole looking for this too. I found Todd Gummerman, who's played with Mute Math for a while. He at least has used it. I don't know if he does anymore. But like you were saying, most artists would just use a JCM 800 or some [inaudible 00:05:09] equivalent of that.

But this is a really great pedal for anybody just looking for that JCM 800 tone without going out and buying the JCM 800. Because I know for me, I have no way to play that without making myself go deaf.

Scott Schwertly:
Exactly. Yeah. That's going to be loud for sure. Yeah. I mean, as you mentioned, Eric, this is a great starting point. A pedal like this retails for about 199, as compared to a couple of thousand bucks for an actual Marshall JCM 800.

So if you're wanting to get into that world, particularly, and let's say you're a new guitarist or you're getting into the pedal world for the first time and you're just curious about what it sounds like, this is a good place to start for sure.

So let's go and talk about some of the flaws and maybe the things that we like and don't like about this pedal. I mean, traditional flaws, I guess, take it or leave it, I think it's a 50/50 world on this one. I'm still not a huge fan of the side mounts on JHS pedal. Sometimes this thing takes up more space on my board than I want it to.

But again like you mentioned, Eric, with the EQ options that they added, just those slight upgrades, I don't really have any complaints about it. I mean, it's side mounts, but again, some people love it, some people hate it. Other than that, I mean, I think there's nothing but good things to say about this pedal. I mean, I love the tones that I get out of it.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. I actually always prefer side mount jacks to top mount. I don't mind top mount jacks. It's just a matter of when you have all three on the top, stuff doesn't fit very well, you have to use certain kinds of cables. So I definitely don't mind that.

I do like that for just the sake of getting closer to the amp they did add the 3-band EQ. I myself find myself a little more comfortable with simpler controls, so I really like the four knob or the three knob setup where it sounded like what it sounded like, and you have maybe one tone control or toner presence. I mean, that's all personal preference.

So for somebody who's actually going for that JCM 800 tone, you're going to want the 3-band EQ because the amp has a 3-band EQ. So once again, it's all personal preference stuff. But overall it's just a great pedal. It sounds great. There really is nothing to complain about.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah. I mean, it's solid and it's got five knobs in total. I mean, we've already walked through this already. But in addition to the EQ pedals, the bass pedal, treble, you've got volume and drive, and pretty straightforward, easy to use, sounds great. I mean, it's pretty wonderful.

Eric Wilson:
And you can power this one at nine or 18 volts.

Scott Schwertly:
Yep. That's right. I totally forgot about that. Well, good deal. Well, let's go ahead and give you guys a taste of what this thing sounds like. So we're going to get this thing plugged in and just give you a quick demo of what it's all about.

Eric Wilson:
Sweet. Yeah. I'm going to use my Les Paul running into Angry Charlie and to the Iridium and then into Logic.

Scott Schwertly:
Perfect. Well, we're going to get that set up guys, and we will see you on the other side.

Eric Wilson:
All right. That was the JHS Angry Charlie. It's a great JCM 800 in a box for a lot less than a JCM 800 costs. So if a JCM 800 is your thing, you should pick up this pedal.

Scott Schwertly:
Agreed. It's a good one. I love it. I have no regrets about it and I'm going to have it for a long time. And if you love that rock sound, this is the pedal to have.

Well there you have it guys, and that's what we wanted to cover. That is the JHS Angry Charlie Version 3.

Join us next time as we get into Episode 56. We're going to be talking about the Guyatone MC3 Micro Chorus. This pedal is now discontinued, but it's got its own separate fan base. A lot of people love it. I really love it, it's got a nice warm sound to it. So we're going to go back and revisit the world of Chorus with, again, the Guyatone MC3 Micro Chorus.

Until then, I hope you guys have a great day, have a great week, and we will catch you in the next one.

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