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069 | Browne Amplification Protein: A Closer Look at this Dual Overdrive Pedal | Transcript

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Scott Schwertly:
Hello, and welcome to episode 69 of the Sonic Renegades Podcast. We're exploring Renegade pedals that have changed the music landscape. Up for today's discussion, we have the Protein Dual Overdrive from Browne Amplification based at the Kansas City, Missouri. This thing is incredibly popular. Most people tend to love it. And we're excited to talk about it on the other side.

Hey, everybody, Scott Schwertly and Eric Wilson of Siren Pedals with you today. Hope you are having a marvelous one. Well, today we're excited to be talking about a pedal from Browne Amplification. We've been meaning to cover this company for quite some time and excited that we're able to get around to it today. And the pedal specifically that we're going to be addressing is the Protein Dual Overdrive from Browne Amplification. This thing is an absolute gem. I've enjoyed it over the last month or so. It's held its spot on my board for quite some time. And excited to share this pedal with you guys today.

Eric Wilson:
This is probably one of the most hyped up pedals of the last, probably over two years. I remember when they first came out, there were people trying to turn around and sell them for like $100, $200 more or whatever, because they came out in a limited release. And I was able to get one out of the first batch and I really liked it. It's a really solid pedal. I think it's probably my favorite dual pedal on the market right now. But yeah, excited to talk about this one.

Scott Schwertly:
I've even experienced some of that recently. In fact, as I was prepping for this episode, I noticed that they are completely out of stock on Browne Amplification. And then I even hopped over to Reverb and basically was looking to see if I could find any there. And there's only one available on Reverb at this present moment. And instead of running for its retail price of 279, I think they had it at 418 in mint condition, not even brand new condition. So, you can even see some of that price hike stuff happening as we speak. So it's hard to get your hands on one. I was lucky to get one again, probably about two, three months ago and I think I'll decide to hold on to it. So it's a good one and I agree, it's probably my favorite dual overdrive pedal at the moment. And I don't anticipate removing it from my board anytime soon.

Eric Wilson:
And it's really great because, it plays off of what the Double-Barrel originated as, for the most part, because it is a dual overdrive kind as the blues breaker side and then a tube screamer esque thing going on with the Nobles ODR one side. And I found that, honestly, the Nobel side, I preferred it because had a Double Barrel a few years ago and I prefer this Noble side to that Double Barrel that I had.

Scott Schwertly:
I know there is a lot of comparisons online comparing those two pedals or those two circuits in also conjunction with analog Barrel, analog Man King Of Tone, which we'll address here in a bit. So, let's actually jump off of that, Eric. For those that are not familiar with this pedal at all, just to give you some context, as we mentioned, this is a dual overdrive, so you've got two sides. You've got the blue side, which is basically the Blues Breaker side and then you've got the green side, as Eric mentioned, which is essentially the Nobles circuit with some modes they've made to it. Number one, being that they will lower the amount of gain and distortion on it. So, really it's their take on these two legendary circuits, all combined into one fabulous pedal.

The idea from this, obviously we were talking about Browne Amplification. So this is a company from David Brown. He's a guitarist. And he actually got together with his producer friend, Adam, and I don't want to butcher his last name here, but Adam Sniegowski. And the two of them worked together, collaborated, and the end result is this Protein Dual Overdrive, which we're talking about today. So again, you get a blue side, Blues Breaker, green side, Nobles. And then if you combine the two, kind of a third channel there, you get what they refer to on their site as actually their favorite tone actually combining both sides there. So it's a wonderful pedal that does a lot, tons of versatility. And if you love that Blues Breaker Tone and that "Nashville" overdrive/Nobles tone, that's what you're going to get with this.

Eric Wilson:
I found that I'm not really one for stacking over drives, but I found when I did have the Protein on my board, I did find myself if I needed something a little bit extra, I would pop on the blues breaker side with the green side and use that for lead lines and things like that. It really is very usable and it doesn't like... normally when you're stacking overdrives it gets a little complicated of, you're trying to figure out what plays well with what, but it's really easy when they make it into a dual pedal. They already figured that out for you. So it makes it really easy. And honestly, it sounds really good.

Scott Schwertly:
Exactly. It's not overwhelming like it can be sometimes when you are stacking things in that combination that they've been able to, like you said, do the heavy lifting for you. Is a great combination in it. It sounds wonderful. And I can see why they like that as one of their favorite sounds. So again, very much a highly versatile pedal. Also a little bit of history behind this. Obviously, again, this is a collaboration, this pedal actually released in late 2018. So it's fairly new. It's hasn't been around for years. We're looking at, little at two years, maybe a little bit close to two and a half years. It's definitely been able to pick up a lot of steam and has developed a following really over a short amount of time. So kudos to David Brown and Adam for all the success that they're getting from this wonderful circuit or circuits.

Eric Wilson:
And one of the cool things that they've done, I don't know if this is the one that you got or not, but I know they've done something where you can use like TRS Y cables and control each of the sides independently through a Looper or something like that. And that was one of my gripes with the original version, because at the time I had a mastermind PVS, huge pedal board, that whole situation. And where it sat was like three rows back and it's like I don't really have access to that. And I was using the Looper. So I didn't really want to have to reach back there. But now for people in that situation, they offer that option when you're ordering it. Does it cost anymore? I haven't looked in a while.

Scott Schwertly:
No, I'm glad you brought this up. So actually the model that we're going to showcase for you guys today in our demo is the model that's more Loop friendly. So we're going to be talking about today is version 2.2, which has that. With the dip switches in the back and again, it's definitely more Looper friendly, when working with it. And there is no additional costs. I believe version 2.2, which is the one that's currently out of stock on their site right now is running for 279. And then I believe I got mine for 299 on Reverb from actually coincidentally, a local retailer here in Nashville that actually sells Browne Amplification products. So, no additional costs for that add on, which is a great decision. I'm glad they did that.

So I think the big debate that, if you're dialing into this Podcast right now, and you're wanting to learn more about the Protein Dual Overdrive, some of the things that we've addressed already, probably the big question in the room is, How does this compare to something like the JHS, Double Barrel or even the Analog Man King of Tone? Typically, those three pedals are the ones that are looked at when somebody is looking to one, have a Blues Breaker type tone, and two, have something a little bit different or an addition to it, whether that's a Tube Screamer Tone or a Nobles Tone, or even in the case of the King of Tone, sort of like two Blues Breaker options.

Typically, these are the ones that are going to be in debate. So we'll quickly offer you our 2 cents on how we think this one stacks against those. I know Eric, you've had personal experience with the King of Tone and the Double Barrel. So I'll let you kick things off with the pros and cons that you see across the board. So,

Eric Wilson:
Starting with the Double Barrel, it's obviously that pedals completely evolved over the past, like five, six years or whatever, because now it is, I think it's the moonshine in the morning glory. And so it's one of those where it's like, you can compare them in their current state, but you almost have to compare this, like the Protein to like the old Double Barrel, that was the Blues Breaker and the [JHS 00:09:19]. And I would say compared to the old, because I had an old one, I didn't have one of the new ones.

And I would say between those two, I personally prefer what the Protein has to offer now. But comparing that to the current JHS Double Barrel, I think is a little bit unfair because now they're not really that close. And I would say the same thing with the King of Tone, the King of Tone is the top of line for Blues Breaker Tones. And if you're looking for that sort of thing, so if you like one of those, and if you would like an additional one to go with it, then it's an obvious King of Tone choice. But I would say to compare them like head to head dead on, it basically all comes down to personal preference at that point.

Scott Schwertly:
Agreed. Everything with what we discuss here is always going to be subjective. And if you are a Blues Breaker fanatic, then you can get the King of Tone. But if you're still fanatic and once in a little bit different with that Nobles, ODR type sound, then this makes a perfect option for you. So I think that the bottom line consensus is the Protein can compete, and you don't have the long waiting lists that you typically will get with something like the King of Tone. So if you got your eye on, again, whether it's the Double Barrel or the King of Tone, and you're going after a great dual overdrive pedal, this thing is pretty magical. I don't think you'll be disappointed one way or another. And being a collector like myself, I'd love to have all three, but again, if you only have the budget to get one, it's all highly subjective. But if you go the Protein route, you're not going to be disabled.

Eric Wilson:
Honestly, if you're thinking about dropping $500 on a King of Tone, drop $300 on this first, see if you like it, and then you can always sell this and still get the King of Tone later. But I would highly recommend buying this or buying this in the meantime, get on the wait list for the King of Tone. Buy this, still want the King of Tone when your time's up on the wait list, buy it then. But don't pay like $600 for it or whatever people are charging now.

Scott Schwertly:
Exactly. Good advice for sure. Awesome. Well, what we're going to do here is give you guys a sample of what this thing actually sounds like. And we'll get things plugged in here. Eric, what's going to be the guitar for this one.

Eric Wilson:
I'm going to go ahead and use the tele for this one.

Scott Schwertly:
Perfect. Well, we're going to get the set up guys and we'll see you on the other side.

Eric Wilson:
All right, that's the Browne Amps Protein. It is possibly my favorite dual overdrive, currently on the market and you should definitely check those out.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah, it's a solid pedal that's for sure. And if you want to, Variety right now they do offer a white version, a green version, which is actually the version that we have, a black one. And I think in older models, they even had a hot pink one. So lots of color options if you are OCD about the way your pedal board looks. And again, something like this is going to set you back about $279, maybe even $300, depending on where you find it. If you're spending more than 300 on this thing, you're spending too much. So research and look wisely as you're online.

All right, guys, there you have it. That is the Browne Amplification Protein Dual Overdrive. Join us next time. We're going to stay in this World of Boutique Pedals and we're going to be talking about the Hudson Sidecar Germanium Clipping Overdrive Pedal. This is another gem of a pedal, and we're excited to share that with you in the next episode. Until then have a great day, have a great week, and we'll catch you in the next one.

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