080 | Walrus Audio Lillian: A Closer Look at this Analog Phaser Pedal | Transcript


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Scott Schwertly:
Hello, and welcome to episode 80 of the Sonic Renegades Podcast. We're exploring Renegade pedals that have changed the music landscape. Up for today's discussion we have the Walrus Lillian. I know I'm personally a huge fan of phasers, so excited to be covering this one on the podcast and we'll do that on the other side.

Hey everybody. Scott Schwertly and Eric Wilson of Siren Pedals with you today. Hope you're having a great and amazing day. Well, today we're super excited because we're going to be talking, about another Walrus Pedal. Specifically. We're going to be talking about the Walrus Lillian Phaser Pedal. I know, I'm a huge fan of phaser pedals. They're kind of one of my favorite tones that I like to have. Excited to be covering this one on the podcast today.

Eric Wilson:
I've just gotten the chance to try this out. I haven't owned one of these before. I really enjoy it. I haven't really had a lot of experience with a lot of different phasers outside of stuff on the Mobius, my GFI Synesthesia, or things like multi modulators. It's really nice to be able to get my hands on something that has more tactile controls.

Scott Schwertly:
This one's definitely a versatile option and we'll definitely get into unpacking that a little bit more as we continue here. When I think about phasers... I'm a huge fan of Pink Floyd. Songs that jump out to me are, specifically songs like Shine On You, Crazy Diamond... It's just, that's phaser galore. Typically, I've always been someone who utilizes a pedal, like the MXR Phase 90. When you have things out there, like the Electro Harmonix Small Stone, which all of those are part of that classic, David Gilmore sound. What I really love about this pedal is that it can pretty much emulate what those great pedals have been able to capture. Plus you can do a lot more just because of the versatility that's provided within it. So excited to run through the controls as we get to that part of this episode.

Before we do that, just some quick history about this pedal and kind of what you can expect with it.

It's fairly new. It actually came out in February of 2019. I personally loved the artwork on this thing. It's what Walrus...

Personally, I really loved the artwork on this thing. It's what Walrus would call their emerald sky-blue. It features Lillian Yonally, who was a pilot, which was part of the WASP from, I believe the World War II era. WASP, standing for, being an acronym for Women... Let me try this again...

I love the color on this thing. It's what Walrus would call their emerald sky-blue. And the artwork on this is absolutely wonderful. It features a person by the name of Lillian Yonally. She was an air force pilot back, I believe in world war II, which was part of WASP. That acronym standing for the Woman Air Force Service Pilots. Again, kind of a nice paint of homage to this person with their artwork. Not only does the pedal look beautiful, again, the tones that you can get from it are absolutely wonderful. A lot of people kind of claim this as being almost like the cousin of the Julia, which we've covered here on the podcast. Just for the similar layout that's provided.

Eric Wilson:
Well, it shares a lot of the things that I really like about the Julia. I mean, one of my favorite things about the Julia is the fact that you can get pretty specific with the [inaudible 00:04:11] that you want. And you can do the same thing here.

Obviously, if you look at it, it is the same knob layout. So you have your rate and width, which are kind of like your typical controls. And then I give that feedback control, which almost is comparable to the lag control and the Julia. And then under that you have like a blend, which blends between your dry signal phaser and then all the way to the right is just vibrato. And then you have a choice between a four or six stage phaser.

So there's a lot of options that just allow you to get really specific. You can either be really subtle if it's something you're trying to ease into, or if you want to get crazy with it, you can do that as well. So, that's one of the main things that I really appreciate about this pedal. It's just all around, it's great. It doesn't take up a lot of space and you can cover a lot of ground with it.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah. For someone like me who really loves having a phaser pedal on my board, and I've got the Mobius, but it's interesting. Right now I've got the Mobius, but I'm also running the Lillian because I just prefer the extra customization and control that the Lillian offers, and it's just a personal preference of mine.

But what I love about it is... The big question in the room as well, if you're a fan of the EHX Small Stone or the MXR Phase 90, those are going to capture that vintage phaser tone. And so the big question is does this have that vintage sound because it is a modern phaser. And I, I think, the answer is, yes, it's a modern pedal, but it can still kind of capture those vintage tones, making it just a truly fun to have on, on any pedal board. And again, being someone that likes phaser having that six stage option or that four stage option, again, just continues to add to the level of versatility that this pedal provides.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. Well, and I think what you're saying kind of leads to a good point that a lot of times when you do have a giant multi, like a multi effects pedal, like the Mobius or something like that, it's a lot easier to find good tones out of like a... Like in this case, a dedicated phaser pedal or for chorus, a dedicated chorus pedal, or things like that. So a lot of times, that's the reason why a lot of guys won't go with the big backs options like that. And I think the Lillian is a great example of why some people don't go with that.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah, exactly. And it's... I'm thinking about this episode, in particular, we're talking about phasers and we started this episode by talking about Shine on You, Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd. So, I've been playing a lot of David Gilmore stuff lately. And so when looking at my board, it's like, I've got the Mobius on there, but not only do I have the Mobius, but I've got this Walrus Lillian pedal that we're talking about today, but I also have the Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress for all the flanger stuff that I'm wanting to accomplish with Pink Floyd stuff. So when you think about songs like Run Like Hell, et cetera. So, kind of almost... Now I'm kind of questioning, why do I even have the Mobius on my board? Because I'm often defaulting to the dedicated modulation options, but that's a discussion for another day.

Eric Wilson:
Well, and I think it's all just figuring out what's the best fit for you and for the way that you like to play and things like that. I mean, I know guys that have all of the multi effects stuff and they just never switched their board. And then I know people where their board is an absolute disaster and they're just swapping things all the time like this. So it just kind of ends up being what inspires you to play and what best fits your needs.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah, exactly. I feel like it's a never ending chase, but good news is, it sounds like most of us obviously enjoy that chase. So, but we digress. So back to the Walrus Lillian. Again, if you're looking for just a really great phaser pedal that can kind of capture that vintage sound, but it's in a modern package, this is the pedal for you. Yeah. I love this thing. I've had my eye on it for quite some time, and finally decided to pull the trigger on it and I'm glad I made the purchase.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. So we'll go ahead and get this thing plugged in and give you a taste of what it sounds like. I'm going to go ahead and use my Duo Jet and then go straight into the Iridium. So it'll be good.

Scott Schwertly:
Perfect. Well, we're going to get that set up guys. And we will see you on the other side.

Eric Wilson:
That was the Walrus Lillian phaser. It's a great phaser. I've really enjoyed getting to play this one. Yeah, you should definitely check it out.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah. It's a solid option. I'm a huge fan of it, and yeah. Again, if you love the world of phasers, you'll love the Lillian. Yeah. It's solid. Awesome guys. Well, that's what we wanted to cover today. That again is the Walrus Lillian pedal. Join us next time. We're actually going to switch gears and take a look at another one of our pedals. It's been a while since we've covered one of our very own. And so for that discussion, and we're going to take a closer look at our Midnight Train Fuzz pedal. So, this pedal was inspired by the civil war Muff. And if you love that sound, if you love that tone, then you should enjoy our discussion about our very own Midnight Train Fuzz pedal. Until then guys, have a great day, have a great week and we'll catch you in the next one.

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