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082 | Triungulo Lab Chorus Ensemble: A Closer Look at this BOSS CE-1 Inspired Pedal | Transcript

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Scott Schwertly:
Hello, and welcome to Episode 82 of the Sonic Renegades Podcast. We're exploring Renegade pedals that have changed the music landscape. For today's discussion we have the Triangular Lab Chorus Ensemble. This thing was inspired by the legendary Boss CE-1 and it's a good one. They did a fantastic job in modeling it, and we're excited to unpack it for you on the other side.

Hey, everybody. Scott Schwertly and Eric Wilson of Sire Pedals with you today, hope you are having a great one. Well, we're excited because today we're going to be talking about the Triangular Lab Chorus Ensemble.

This thing was inspired by the legendary Boss CE-1 pedal, which launched in 1976. In fact, we covered it right here on the Sonic Renegades Podcast several episodes ago. And that pedal is an absolute gem. It's legendary for a reason, and there's not a lot out there as far as clones or replicas of that circuit. But this one exists, and it did a fantastic job. It's a faithful recreation of the Boss CE-1.

I absolutely love it. It's a fraction of the price, a fraction of the footprint. It's a great option for anybody wanting that Boss CE-1 tone on their board for a lower price.... [inaudible 00:01:39] For a lower price point and less real estate on your pedal board. So, absolutely love it.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. I remember I picked up the Boss CE-1 and I love the way it sounded. I loved the preamp in it and I loved what it did when you boosted your signal with it. And then the chorus sounds obviously were great, but with how big it was and you needed to actually plug it into the wall, it was kind of finicky. Wasn't going to work all the time. So to try and carry that around or use it with your board or whatever, it was just kind of not a good option.

So it's cool to see one that CE-1 has the same sound, but you're able to use it on a regular basis. Have it fit on your board, has all the same features, and then also just some modern updates to help you actually be able to use it.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah. And that thing is an absolute beast as far as just the size. And like you said, it can be a little bit finicky at times. And the other thing I mean, it's a classic pedal. I mean, it's legendary for a reason and those things are not cheap. I mean, they run anywhere from, I think you sold yours right on river for about $750,$700?

Eric Wilson:
Yeah, it was in that range for sure.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah. I mean, this is definitely one of those pedals that you don't want to carry around. Because one, they're just ginormous. And two, they cost a lot and the last thing you want to have happen is that obviously to break or something bad to happen to it. So it's more, I guess, kind of in that collectors category than anything else.

So the great thing about this Triangular Lab Chorus Ensemble is it pretty much captures the same tone but it's in a smaller size, a smaller price point. Yeah, it's a great alternative if you want that sound but you don't want to take your Boss CE-1 out of your house or on the road. So yeah, it's a great option for anybody looking to have that reality.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. Well, and like I was saying, it's like now you have nine volt power for it. So you can actually power it with a real power supply and not have to plug it into the wall or worry about having a power supply that has an outlet on the back or something like that. So just really very convenient.

Scott Schwertly:
For sure. And that to me is kind of the shining star in this whole thing. So if you don't know much about Triangular Lab, this is a company built by, I believe, Will Galluccio I'm probably pronouncing your name wrong Will, apologies. Will is based in Italy. And he actually says on his website that in 2017, he started prototyping ideas for a CE-1 type circuit. And by 2018, just a year later, this version that he created was born. And so you can actually buy it on the Triangular Lab website. In fact, I bought mine, I believe in early January. And it was put on a wait list and just got mine several weeks ago.

So I think the total wait time was about two to three months for this thing to be turned around. But I mean, it was worth it. And then as far as price too, if you're in case you're wondering what this thing will actually set you back. I believe I got mine once it was translated to us dollars was about $400, but that's half the price point... Almost half the price point of a CE-1, which again is going to set you back $700, $750, $800. Again, just depending on the quality of the pedal or CE-1 that you're looking into. So yeah. I mean, glad I waited for this thing.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. Well, and I mean, like we were saying, it's like to have the sound of the older one with the convenience of the newer features and stuff. To me having the CE-1 was a cool thing. It's cool to have one of the first chorus pedals ever made or to have even one of the first... In that early time of pedals to have one of those. It's really cool. I'm a very practical person. So from a very practical standpoint, it is not practical at all. It makes no sense to have. So for me, it's like, I feel a lot more comfortable spending my money on this than I would on that. If I were to it again.

Scott Schwertly:
Exactly. There's so many arguments you can make in favor of having something like this as a replacement. It's just, like you said, it's more practical. And at the end of the day you're getting the same schematic, you're getting an improved power section, you're getting the same bucket brigade, MN 3,002 chips that are in this thing. So it's pretty much the same pedal just in a more compact size and more modern, obviously.

So yeah. Great pedal. It does a fantastic job in recreating the original. So let's go ahead and walk you guys through what you can actually expect with this. If you're familiar with the CE-1 you're probably familiar with these controls already. But if you're new to this world, we'll just kind of quickly walk you through what's actually on this pedal as far as foot switches and knobs and toggle switches here. So yeah, Eric, you want to go and run through those?

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. So, the foot switches are set up just like a CE- so you have your normal and your effect foot switch that doesn't have a bypass LED, it has a peak LED. And then you have your foot switch that controls between the chorus and the vibrato. And then your top row and ops are laid out exactly the same as the CE-1. You have level, chorus intensity, depth rate, and then a high and low. And if I'm not mistaken, I believe that's for the input to determine. Because I think this was made for a Rhodes to begin with. I think it was made for keyboards or the CE-was, this was obviously made for a guitar. But they still added that in there in case you're using it with a Rhodes or another keyboard.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah, so all of the stuff that's included here, again, pretty much mimics the original and you can pretty much dial in what you're looking for. If you have a CE-1 and you want to mimic it or you're looking into getting a CE-1 and you're sort of concerned or curious as if it can capture those same tones, manipulate these knobs and you'll get there. In fact, there are a lot of great videos too on YouTube that we'll walk you through in more detail, what we're going to cover here in this episode. But it's amazingly close to the original. And again, for someone like myself who loves John Frusciante, who's famous for using the Boss CE-1. If you're wanting to capture that first Frusciante tone, you'll be able to capture it with this pedal.

So enough talking, let's give you guys a taste of what this thing can actually sound like. So we're going to get things connected here, Eric, what are you going to go with today?

Eric Wilson:
I'm going to use the tele.

Scott Schwertly:
Perfect. Awesome. We're going to get this connected guys and we'll see you on the other side.

Eric Wilson:
All right. That was a Triangular Lab Chorus Ensemble. It's a great CE-1 kind of replica thing going on. So if you were considering getting a CE-1 I'd highly recommend this. If you weren't, I would still check it out if you can obviously price tags a little steep, but it's a great sounding pedal, nonetheless.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah. I mean, it's phenomenal. It like you said, Eric, it is pricey. $400 is cheaper than $750, but $400 is still expensive for a pedal. So totally get that. But typically, if you're looking for a CE-1 type sound, you've got a specific niche or a genre that you're playing in. And if that's your thing this is a fantastic choice. So as you said, Eric, I also highly, highly recommend it. All right, guys. Well, that is the Triangular Lab Chorus Ensemble. Before we sign off, I know Eric, you've got an update for everyone. Yeah. I'll go ahead and toss it to you and let you share that.

Eric Wilson:
Yeah. I've actually recently just accepted a role at a church here in Nashville where I'm going to be an audio director. And so that means this will be my last Sonic Renegades Podcast hosting. But I've loved the opportunity to get to do this, especially over the last year with everything being shut down. It's given me something to do so that's been great. But yeah, it's been a lot of fun. We've covered a lot of great pedals and I look forward to seeing what's next for the podcast.

Scott Schwertly:
Yeah. Well, Eric appreciate all that you've done on the co-hosting side of things. And also all that you've done for Siren Pedals. So for those that you don't know, Eric has two responsibilities here at Siren Pedals. One, he builds all of our pedals and then he also, he shares co-hosting responsibilities with me here on the Sonic Renegades Podcast.

Scott Schwertly:
So Eric, your contributions are going to be deeply missed, but wish you all the best with that new adventure. It sounds like an amazing opportunity. So yeah, we'll definitely miss you here on the podcast.

Eric Wilson:
I'll miss being on here.

Scott Schwertly:
Awesome. Well there you have it guys again, this was the Triangle Lab Chorus Ensemble. I'm still figuring out our game plan for the next episode. So more to come on that front, but until then have a great day, have a great week. And we'll catch you in the next one.

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